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On episode 376, NASA Johnson’s multimedia staff leads speak about what it takes to seize and proportion the tale of house exploration and the way strategies have developed because the Apollo technology. This episode was once recorded February 19, 2025.
Transcript
Joseph Zakrzewski (Host)
Houston, now we have a podcast. Welcome to the authentic podcast of the NASA Johnson Area Heart. Episode 376, I Need My NASA TV. I’m Joseph Zakrzewski, and I’ll be your host for this episode. In this podcast, we deliver within the mavens, scientists, engineers, manufacturing designers, communicators and astronauts, all to help you know what’s occurring on this planet of human house flight and extra. For many years, NASA TV, and now NASA+, has been the gateway for the sector to witness ancient house flight moments from the Apollo moon landings to the travel technology and nowadays’s thrilling systems. However how does all of it come in combination? What does it take to seize and proportion the tale of exploration with audiences around the globe? Lately, we’ll be speaking with the mavens who make it occur, NASA’s are living tv manufacturers and longtime staff participants who’ve formed the evolution of NASA’s tv productions. On this episode, we’re commemorated to talk with NASA’s Exterior Members of the family Administrative center multimedia manager John Stoll and NASA’s are living tv manufacturer staff lead, Sarah Volkman, who’ve been key colleagues in bringing NASA’s tale to existence. Revel in.
Joseph Zakrzewski
Hi, John. Sarah, thanks such a lot for approaching Houston, We Have a Podcast nowadays. Neatly, to begin, let us know about yourselves and what are your backgrounds. What introduced you to NASA, John, we’ll get started with you.
John Stoll
Sounds excellent. Thanks such a lot for having me. That is thrilling about myself, my background, so clearly, my identify is John Stoll. I’ve come from audio manufacturing. I used to be a musician as a child, and I discovered that you’ll want to do audio for a profession. And so I went to I were given a point in audio, after which I discovered a role out right here for Lockheed Martin, no longer an audio however soldering communications panels and quite a lot of take a look at chambers they have got on website at Johnson Area Heart. And so I simply dove in. I like soldering, so I’ll come right here and I’ll do this. After which a chum of mine, I’d simplest been there a couple of months, buddy of mine mentioned, Whats up, over in construction two, there’s they there have audio folks at NASA. I mentioned, they don’t have audio folks at NASA. That’s no longer conceivable. That’d be the best factor on this planet. It seems they do, they usually had a gap for an audio particular person. So I made myself, I made myself in construction two, and simply stricken them till they similar to, simply superb, simply come over right here and get started operating. As a result of I like house exploration. At all times have, and I like audio manufacturing. And in order that’s how I were given right here, and I used to be within the audio keep watch over room. We supported, in the ones occasions, house travel missions, essentially, after which the gap station began being constructed, and so we supported either one of the ones issues. And that’s, yeah, that’s my background and the way I were given right here.
Joseph Zakrzewski
Sarah, how’d you get right here? When did you get started?
Sarah Volkman
All proper, neatly, thanks for having us on. It’s in point of fact a laugh to be at the this aspect of the microphone very long time, first time. So I used to be surely a Movie TV, simply, you understand, nerd rising up. And I used to be additionally a daughter of an army circle of relatives. So we moved far and wide, however by means of numerous puts, wound up in Texas as our remaining forestall. And yeah, so I made up our minds to stick right here for varsity. Went to university in East Texas, Stephen F Austin State College. They’ve a superior movie program there, and made up our minds, you understand, when I used to be wrapping up highschool, that’s what I sought after to pursue. And thru that have, discovered so much about myself, discovered so much about different colleges I had, and made up our minds after I were given out to, you understand, get into the business any method I may. I didn’t fairly have the tummy for, like, numerous my classmates, you understand, live to tell the tale a sofa and do a like, like, almost definitely like a Stoll right here, I did one thing slightly extra stable. You realize, for my I knew that about myself, my psychological well being, so I discovered a role at a information station as a result of I cherished movie, however I additionally cherished TV. And I discovered so much there, and that surely opened me as much as getting this, this process right here. So our remaining forestall after we had been shifting was once Houston. My folks are living in Houston, in order that’s the place I used to be taking a look to transport to after operating slightly bit of reports in East Texas. And I imply, in point of fact, simply the celebrities aligned. And I in point of fact, in point of fact, simply were given in point of fact fortunate that, like, like, similar factor took place to John. They’d this chance once more. Individuals are like, what do you do? What do you do? The movie level? And I like to now inform them, Neatly, I simply paintings at NASA, so ended up right here. Were given in point of fact fortunate. Um, and thank you, John.
John Stoll
You’re welcome.
Joseph Zakrzewski
It’s all the time a laugh to look when folks’s eyes mild, you understand, illuminate while you inform them that you just paintings at NASA and what you get to do, and while you get to be part of and, and particularly this, this team right here with NASA TV now NASA plus manufacturing and the whole lot that is going in the back of it, you spot numerous, you understand, talks of. Celebrities and engagement on on-line and thru different podcasts that they speak about, the staff, in the back of the staff, and what it takes to make a manufacturing, what it takes to make a movie, what it takes to make a TV display, audio recordings for tune. I imply, the listing is going on and on, and also you all the time pay attention them give thank you at award displays. This staff is rather like that staff, if no longer larger, and in point of fact dives into it. And John, we’ll get started again with you. How large is the NASA TV multimedia staff, the manufacturing staff, and what a part of that do you lend a hand facilitate?
John Stoll
Yeah, in order as manager of the staff, it, I imply, it’s without equal provider to the staff, is to is to guide it, and I do my very best at that on a daily basis. However the staff is, it’s a big staff, and it’s a it’s a various staff in the case of talent units, there’s video manufacturers, video editors, are living tv manufacturers, audio engineers, which, in contrast to numerous TV outfits in the market, there’s a devoted audio division that does particular purposes, which is lucky for me, as a result of that’s how I were given right here. After which social media and new media or even communications coordinators that fill in gaps which might be particular to what we do right here, particular with verbal exchange, with the flight keep watch over staff, interfacing that very particular undertaking operation to what we do in communications and multimedia. So there’s there’s the staff is is as large as it’s, as a result of there’s distinctive roles. After which there’s the, predictable manufacturer, editor, script creator position that any one can determine with and know what they do. However yeah, so it splits into are living broadcast after which put up manufacturing, two aspects of the home, after which social media that straddles it, and we paintings at the quite a lot of platforms in social media. Yeah, that’s what we quilt. And naturally, we’ve additionally were given, you understand, one particular person, simplest, person who assists in keeping all of the machine working always, uptime. You realize, 24/7, 365, with, with few exceptions, who we’re all indebted to. I’ll say his identify, John Thayer is a, he’s an excessively, very sensible virtual methods engineer, and we’re all, we’re all indebted to him on a daily basis.
Joseph Zakrzewski
How large is your staff?
Sarah Volkman
Yeah, so I’m only a subset of you understand the staff John described. We have now a small team of manufacturers. You wouldn’t in point of fact imagine how a lot we and it’s grown over time. I do know now we have an issue later, like, how has this modified? It’s grown over time, however you wouldn’t imagine how a lot we quilt, as a result of we do quilt the whole lot that is going out to the general public, and a few stuff that doesn’t pass out to the general public for, you understand, like institutional stuff for all of JSC, and the issues Johnson Area Heart and the issues that JSC, the systems that it’s house to. So, you understand, astronaut, the rest to do with the astronauts, the rest to do with the gap station, the Artemis undertaking. Now, you understand that’s run out of Johnson, after which, you understand, we’re going to get into it, however the entire industrial systems, so yeah, we’re it more or less sound like numerous positions, however it’s in point of fact, it’s no longer numerous folks for what we pull off. And yeah, some other shout out to John Thayer. You realize, he labored at a information station, like numerous us have. It’s an entire team of engineers and and that, you understand, working that day-to-day operation, and we simplest have one right here. However, yeah, like John discussed, we’re an excessively flexible staff, and it’s more or less loopy. What we make occur.
John Stoll
It’s attention-grabbing, more or less the the simply to more or less riff off of that, how the staff seems to be find it irresistible seems to be now, is pushed by way of what we’ve achieved up to now, and so what, what house travel, house travel TV manufacturing drove us to do, and the way we supported that. Remnants of that also tell how our staff is formed, in what we do. As an example, in Sarah’s team with the are living tv manufacturers, there’s typically one particular person working all of the display over there. And we don’t have an audio apply, video switcher, which individuals in TV can be very conversant in. We have now a audio keep watch over that manually does audio the ones, the ones purposes had been in position right here for many years, and so more or less the way in which that we do issues right here, and the way in which the method through which we make TV is pushed by way of that historical past all the time taking a look ahead, in fact, however numerous that also stays, and it’s simply it’s the character of being with reference to human house flight, and being with reference to a sustained human house flight too. If we did, if we simply supported launches and went house, corresponding to they do at Kennedy Area Heart, our staff would glance so much other. And the staff at Kennedy does glance so much other because of this. But it surely’s the sustained, it’s the marathon nature that more or less informs issues right here.
Sarah Volkman
That’s excellent, excellent factor that you just discussed, if anyone’s listening and they’re conversant in, like a TV studio, or some common TV studio or a brand new studio, you’ll, you understand, you’ll image like a TD, graphics operator all that neatly, now we have the ones roles, you understand, now we have graphic fashion designer and whatnot, however within the keep watch over room, it’s one particular person, our manufacturers are our TDs, our graphics ops, our playbacks and. And so, yeah, I imply, it’s by no means a lifeless second, numerous a laugh, and
Joseph Zakrzewski
coming from business too, like, I imply, it’s almost definitely protected to mention that it’s a good knit team of people who put on more than one hats, one thing that numerous folks can most likely relate to in any multimedia box, whether or not it’s leisure or NASA TV manufacturing. And without a doubt that’s the staff in the back of the staff. And John, you more or less took me proper into my my first level you and Sarah was once was once out of your reports while you first arrived to NASA. What was once the state of NASA TV like now once more, in fact, NASA plus at the streaming platforms. How has it modified since then and and, in fact, this manufacturing machine, this taste, has been on the vanguard of all are living occasions, pre produced occasions and such. You realize, folks listening at this time have noticed a NASA manufacturing, almost definitely with out ever realizing it was once a NASA manufacturing, whether or not it was once a clip of it at the information or a are living manufacturing that you just yourselves put in combination, however from the time you arrived to how we’ve grown now and one of the demanding situations alongside the way in which, how have you ever noticed that development?
John Stoll
Yeah, that’s a super query. So after I arrived, was once early 1998 and it was once Area Travel Program, simplest, eyes against the gap station would start. First component introduced past due 1998 so I labored, I believe, the remaining 3 or 4 missions sooner than we began doing house station flights and the way in which we did TV. At the moment, we had a unmarried analog satellite tv for pc that carried a sign, just one sign, there was once some other satellite tv for pc used to transport video from side to side between NASA facilities, and it was once a public satellite tv for pc, however that was once no longer the person who the one satellite tv for pc, transponder 9, if any one recollects, was once the person who the that you’ll want to watch and music in to your native cable channel, and you’ll want to see, you understand, NASA TV, and it was once analog. Not anything was once virtual, in fact. The attention-grabbing factor was once transponder 9 and the opposite the opposite ones, transponder 5, the ones had been tied to numerous processes within the house travel program the place they had been used for particular issues. So we had directives on how we transfer TV. So after I were given right here we, for instance, a rule was once, if we had downlink TV coming from Area Travel the TD in Sara’s space was once responsibility certain to position that downlink TV out onto NASA TV so the general public may see it with out decrease thirds or fonts. That was once the rule of thumb, and we couldn’t wreck the rule of thumb. And so numerous what we did was once directed, was once extra programmatically directed, which had was once, had come from the previous, however we had a record for the ones tremendous . It’s NSTS 08240, the Area Travel tv plan, which I memorized as a result of I needed to memorize it. And we lived by way of that record. And in order that was once, that was once after I first arrived. And Area Station modified all of that, as a result of as an alternative of getting folks in house for, you understand, 9,12,14,17 days, alternatively lengthy, after which no longer once more, for a couple of months, we had folks in house always. And so the 24/7 mode of give a boost to that we had in our in our audio keep watch over room, manufacturing keep watch over room, the ones modes simplest labored for an excessively few minutes sooner than everyone learned that’s no longer going to paintings. As folks in house 24/7 is a unique animal. And so we had been ready to begin converting how we broadcast, slowly converting how we broadcast, to begin extra immediately concentrated on the general public and to get folks staring at for causes of like, oh, this broadcast is a bit more attention-grabbing. It’s were given extra parts to it. It’s were given extra graphics to it. It’s were given decrease thirds. We don’t have to depart downlink, a downlink video channel from the gap station on NASA TV when now we have one, as a result of we all the time have it. So we needed to alternate numerous the ones issues alternate simply by nature of the technical setup, of what now we have to be had. However yeah,
Sarah Volkman
agreed.
Joseph Zakrzewski
Neatly, you got here in the midst of all this. So John, you understand, I’ll say John was once part of that first transition of, you understand, travel flights into, I’ll name it round-the-clock protection, virtually. And then you definately are available as part of that staff, that expansive team, to, you understand, you were given folks coming and going from the gap station. So it’s a must to quilt that. You have got folks at the house station. In order that comes to an entire different set of directives. So for you, you more or less got here in, like looking to catch as much as him, to John and his wisdom, after which enforcing what you’ve discovered thru information. And the way do I make this relatable to the general public? The place, you understand, John discussed, it was once simply that solo blank feed with out a graphics, no manufacturing price, and then you definately attempt to spice it up slightly bit and upload a few of that perception of, you understand, when a visitor seems to be at what they’re seeing, they realize it as neatly.
Sarah Volkman
Yeah, I surely got here in proper as that massive shift was once almost definitely happening. However even, you understand, 8 years in the past I’ve noticed the sort of large shift, even in the ones 8 years. So I believe simply more or less basic abstract of of what John mentioned to me we’ve shifted extra from being a whole media useful resource, you understand, whole documentation sort useful resource, developing slightly bit extra of one thing that stands by myself as its personal manufacturing, that anyone can be told from and be entertained by way of. And in addition, however extra importantly, yeah, be told from be trained about what NASA is doing and generating that ourselves, somewhat than being a whole Media Useful resource. However we straddle the road. We surely nonetheless have the necessities and the will to verify everybody who needs to make use of the content material can and understands how and you understand what it’s, and will get get that that wisdom and hobby in the market. After which, or even simply, you understand, day after day, the it’s exploded, however we do, you understand, downlink interviews with the Global Area Station as, like, something we’re doing day-to-day. After which now we have our extra, you understand, extra, larger, upper profile occasions, company occasions that had been move participating with, they usually was possibly a kind of a yr. And now it’s as a result of hobby has grown like, I believe, you understand, the entire paintings that folks installed over the a long time is paid off. And so, yeah, there’s much more. You realize, a handful of the ones large, top profile move company occasions a yr, naturally, that simply exploded. I imply, the second one yr I used to be right here, we went from simply having house station ops protection to industrial staff. We had been beginning lunar stuff, and ASCAN graduate ASCAN categories were given much more protection. All took place, like the following yr. So yeah, surely noticed a style of the way it was, after which the speedy explosion that we’re experiencing now.
Joseph Zakrzewski
And that’s a super level you’re making too concerning the I imply, the manufacturing price, I’ll name it, that has grown considerably within the footprint, has grown such a lot, as a result of we’re speaking so much about, you understand, downlinks from the Global Area Station, from the from the Area Travel. However there’s so much right here at the flooring that needs to be coated. You communicate concerning the astronaut commencement and the manufacturing price that has to move in the back of that, in the case of a are living match, whether or not it’s, you understand, construction renaming ceremonies, or issues that aren’t even proven are living, however are pre recorded for different manufacturing values. There’s an entire machine. I imply, so dare I say, you understand, the are living downlinks from Area Station is, you understand, possibly the top of the iceberg, if you are going to, of the manufacturing that has to move in to what you do, each from house and at the flooring. And that leads me to some other good thing you introduced up about the way it’s exploded. Neatly, let’s enlarge that footprint much more sooner than NASA plus arrives. Nonetheless, NASA TV, the virtual technology comes flying in and shall we us know that 24/7 streaming choices are to be had. So that you no longer simplest have to place it over a cable sign, however you may have social media channels, you may have website online channels, you may have direct feeds to, you understand, VPN dial ins for media get admission to. So it continues to department off in many various techniques. How have the ones technological developments progressed your manufacturing and helped it develop much more.
John Stoll
Yeah they, I imply, they their demanding situations. In the beginning, any technological development, it’s a, I don’t know, they’ve progressed it as a result of they’ve driven us, they usually’ve driven us to be told. They’ve driven us to to have a look at procedure, to mention, like, how can we make what we make to the place it resonates on some new platform? As an example, Fb Are living was once no longer all the time round it’s bizarre to suppose now, however like that was once are living streaming isn’t all the time round again. I don’t know should you take note, we are living streamed an EVA again within the early days when no one was once are living streaming and we needed to paintings with Fb immediately to get them to increase the duration of the are living flow longer than, I believe it was once like, 4 hour restrict or one thing
Sarah Volkman
It was an enormous deal, yeah. After which if anyone was once gonna flow live to tell the tale Fb, it was once like, yeah, large deal
John Stoll
NASA had labored immediately to Fb to, like, make this occur. And folks cherished it. They might take a seat on a educate in no matter town they’re going to they’re commuting house, and, you understand, any town all over the world, and they have got the view from an astronauts helmet of their telephone of their hand, and it’s the best factor on this planet. It’s like, oh, that is wonderful. And the ones reports pointed us at like, like, there’s a there’s a terrific tale to inform on a daily basis. Like, we don’t also have to modify the rest we do manufacturing smart. All we need to do is work out easy methods to get what we do on those platforms in the way in which that they’re they’re attaining folks in order that, in order that doesn’t alternate your manufacturing means. We nonetheless, you understand, the are living tv manufacturers take a seat there they usually they transfer a excellent display that tells a pleasant tale. However the the platforms do command you to more or less to determine your procedure and to determine to get there, and at the at the at the put up manufacturing aspect of the home as neatly. It adjustments you for some time as a result of occasionally, occasionally quite a lot of platforms prioritize other forms of movies, and so possibly you wish to have to hit one thing within the first one to 2 seconds of a video sooner than you get into the longer tale. However I believe, I believe the item we’ve almost definitely discovered over time is that, is that platforms come and pass, they modify. Member vine issues, issues come and pass, they modify. What doesn’t alternate is the human need to know a tale. And I believe podcasting humorous is a brilliant instance of that their target market is like. Me who love lengthy shape tale. And so the fast stuff is in the market, you understand, the shorts and the reels and all that that’s in the market. However there’s additionally lengthy shape stuff. Folks wish to dig into the lengthy tale. And so I believe in the long run, what, and this can be a very lengthy option to say this, however the technological advances of the time, in the long run, they mature you to know, like, there’s, there’s more than one prongs to the way. You’ll’t do just one and no longer do the others. You must work out easy methods to do all of them, as a result of they’re all vital. And on the finish of the day, there’s a terrific tale to learn. There’s folks dwelling in house at this time which might be which might be lately writing a tale, and it’s to inform that tale on a daily basis in the entire techniques. That’s in point of fact the that’s the problem,
Sarah Volkman
proper? And it’s a excellent, you understand, having those platforms, it’s a excellent factor. I imply, there’s extra platforms. You may well be like, Ah, some other one, however you understand, it’s that’s simply signifies that anyone else has an more straightforward option to, you understand, shopper content material. So that you must, you understand, it’s excellent to take a look at to fulfill them the place they’re at. After which, you understand, the bodily parameters of stuff it’s a must to be expanded to, like, we commence taking pictures issues in 9 by way of six as an alternative of or 9 by way of 16, and that form of factor, you understand, you you’re making the entire sensible adjustments to to fulfill folks the place they’re at as a result of, sure, those tales wish to be informed, and it’s superior to have extra techniques to do this.
John Stoll
And from a ancient standpoint, too, I believe, I believe the item I’ve discovered over time is, and it’s humorous, as a result of now we have this occurring at this time. We have now any individual who’s right here that was once right here right through Area Travel and understood how all that labored. After which now we have anyone who’s right here that wasn’t right here right through Area Travel, and who does no longer have first hand enjoy of realizing how that works, however understands it higher now. And I suppose, what I’ve discovered is that having a staff that has all of that, like an equivalent mixture of the ones sort of people who perceive the entire views, I believe that’s the place the energy in point of fact is. In the event you simply have everyone who was once employed the previous day, then there’s none of that ancient context. Or should you don’t have any one that’s you understand, no longer been employed lately, then you may have not one of the fashionable context. And so I believe you wish to have, I believe you wish to have all the ones items.
Sarah Volkman
That’s vital. You almost certainly, you almost certainly know Joseph the like, you understand, neatly, within the Travel, that is how we did it comes up. I imply, I don’t know, thrice an afternoon, in order that’s vital. We all know, now we have individuals who know what that suggests.
Joseph Zakrzewski
Neatly on a manufacturing aspect, too. I imply, I take note as rising up, like, how large of a deal it was once when, you understand, it was once 4 by way of 3 staring at on a tube TV, and also you discussed going to 16:9. Neatly, then you definately combine in virtual media. Like, 16:9 is then impulsively vertical, after which I’m staring at the whole lot from a vertical standpoint. And also you discussed vine, like, How can I inform a tale in 3 seconds? Neatly, now I were given a minute and tale. After which, like, so that you’re looking to, like, to find the correct tale, and on the similar time meet the target market the place they’re at. Like, you gave that a super instance of folks at the pass staring at streaming of an EVA, however on the similar time too, how are you able to inform your tale to suit the home windows at the platforms that folks very best see have compatibility? And I imply, with that too, I suppose you more or less already touched upon it. However I in point of fact would really like to dive in additional is, how has the upward push of virtual streaming total modified the way in which that NASA approaches manufacturing? Like I mentioned, you were given these kind of other codecs, these kind of other ways. Do you try to take one main manufacturing and splinter it off into other fractions of what they are able to live to tell the tale? I suppose you’ll want to say in the case of platforms and streaming availability. Or do you try to make unique occasions and parts and are living streams and bring thrilling content material for every person channel? I suppose, if that’s a good method of phraseology that,
John Stoll
yeah, evidently. I imply, I believe preferably, I believe, typically talking, all of us wish to do much more than now we have time to do. I would really like to supply, for instance, put up manufacturing, video, a model of it this is is particularly focused to, like an Instagram reel that’s like sub 3 mins or sub 90 seconds that within the vertical layout, like produce that method. However the longer tale is a normal, you understand, a body 16:9 that lives on. You realize, NASA plus one leads the opposite simply different. There’s often no longer sufficient time to do this. There’s all the time the will. However so what we do is we you have to be as environment friendly as conceivable at concentrated on like the place we all know in line with metrics, as a result of we have a look at metrics throughout these kind of platforms, the place we all know individuals are, how lengthy their view time is, all that stuff to take a look at, such as you say, to fulfill them the place they’re. That’s, that’s in point of fact the objective. So we focal point on that, so the place we’re simply the usage of our sources simply as successfully as conceivable. However that’s, that’s from my standpoint, that’s that’s more or less how we hit it. After which the opposite factor to comprehend is as to keep in mind, as a result of we get used to it right here, I will stroll as much as the audio keep watch over room right here at JSC, and I often take folks up there, and I level on the display screen. I used to be like, Glance, that’s a digicam view from house. And individuals are amazed, like, you’ll be able to arise right here anytime and simply have a look at a digicam that’s in house, and I disregard, as a result of I’ve been doing it for such a lot of years, and so it’s vital to take into account that too. It’s like occasionally, occasionally easy is very best, like, simply display, simply display the view.
Sarah Volkman
I used to be gonna point out that. One of the crucial common issues I ever pay attention about is the H Dev, the top the HD Earth view digicam payload that was once. Actually simply taking pictures the Earth. It’s a gradual factor. It was once numerous, like, I believe there was once, like, Lo Fi tune. Folks would simply have it on all night time. I’d pay attention from from folks, after which that got here from right here and that, yeah, so occasionally it’s continuously converting. We all know what works very best, lengthy shape, quick shape. However there are a few things that you understand simply are common. You realize, folks have a tendency to in point of fact love to look their planet. That’s an excessively cool factor for them. They usually like to chill out. So yeah, this is one in every of our hottest issues that comes from no longer this construction technically, however JSC neatly, and
Joseph Zakrzewski
I’m and I’m proper there. And for listeners which might be tuned in like you’ll be able to nonetheless enjoy that, whether or not it’s thru NASA plus or I’m going at the NASA YouTube channel always simply to observe 10 seconds of, you understand, you wish to have to have a peaceful, non violent second. And you understand, the ISS has, you understand, video and audio sign coming down, so you’ll be able to simply watch the earth fly by way of in probably the most gorgeous and maximum most simple of paperwork. And I nonetheless suppose that’s a super core a part of this manufacturing, as it’s the staff that we’re speaking to right here that makes that occur for those who can in point of fact enjoy that and get that wonderment as they get to observe the earth fly by way of, fairly actually. Neatly, sooner than we get into our subsequent subject, I wish to more or less stay in this of this rising and exceeding, and, you understand, assembly the demanding situations and exceeding the demanding situations with that to NASA manufacturing, NASA TV, NASA+, has been ready to win numerous thrilling awards. And those awards have come on account of the manufacturing values that you just guys have added to each platform and each channel and the whole lot that folks get to take part in, whether or not it’s pre produced content material, documentary taste, or if it’s are living produce manufacturing. And this is going the entire long ago. Some folks don’t know that NASA gained an Emmy for are living manufacturing for the Apollo 11 lunar touchdown, and it began from there, as a result of that was once the NASA pushed initiative to have a digicam do a are living manufacturing right down to earth, produce the TV streams, after which off you pass. At the awards come. How rewarding is it you as a staff to look that popularity of your paintings and know that you understand from from the place you began, of cable tv to now streaming platforms and now increasing it to more than one other surfaces and codecs, to look that the target market and the leisure business, after which simply the folks total, are in point of fact appreciating it such a lot so that you’ve got some trophies to turn for it.
John Stoll
Proper, proper there, only for me, talking for my part as a manager, there’s not anything, there’s not anything that brings me extra pleasure than seeing anyone that I paintings with, like, like Sarah right here get an award find it irresistible’s the best factor ever. Not anything brings me extra pleasure than seeing seeing my pals be triumphant, however realizing that that award additionally brings an individual pleasure and neatly deserved popularity, however realizing what the ones awards imply to those who possibly don’t paintings right here or possibly don’t know so much about NASA TV manufacturing, and what is going on in the back of the scenes is vital too, to have other people have an greater consciousness of the truth that there’s numerous exhausting paintings occurring. And it’s, it’s no longer simply, you understand, the individual receiving the award is all the time, that’s simply the individual with the identify. There’s all the time people concerned. There’s all the time people occupied with infrastructure, which we don’t, we don’t do in construction to however there’s, you understand, Challenge infrastructure that, you understand, KU, band antennas and TDRS satellites and the entire stuff that’s post there by way of people, which is how we get video down from Area Station. All the ones individuals are concerned too. They don’t get the award, they usually’re no longer even TV folks. However with out them, we, you understand, we will be able to’t do what we do.
Sarah Volkman
So it’s a unique it’s only a other international. After all, it’s great to get an award, like, I’m no longer gonna faux it’s no longer a pleasant for anyone to acknowledge you, however it’s all the time slightly bittersweet, as a result of, you understand, their factor at the manufacturing staff, when right here at NASA, any undertaking, the rest, the rest that you just do is within the astronauts will say this up and down, you’re status at the shoulders of 1000s of folks. And so sure, you understand, it’s bittersweet, as a result of each time we’ve achieved manufacturing, it’s taken 3, different 4, different 5, different departments to get that at the air and they usually’re steadily no longer integrated in the ones recognitions. So yeah, however it is rather rewarding, as a result of we do, you understand the gap doesn’t apply any form of timeline. You realize, any form of 40 hour week, any form of, you understand this, you do 9 hour quilt to begin two within the morning, like while you’re within the thick of a undertaking, it’s, it’s, it’s so much and in point of fact grueling, however in point of fact rewarding. So it’s great, clearly, to be known. However I simply in point of fact like that individuals are staring at our stuff. You realize, should you win one thing, it manner anyone watched it. And that’s the entire level we want. Those tales are in point of fact vital, the issues the astronauts are operating on, the issues that house station is operating on, the entire different systems, their existence saving, existence, converting planet, converting, or in point of fact vital issues. So it’s in point of fact great that individuals are staring at that’s to have evidence
John Stoll
That’s the item, and to not get to, you understand, instructional or the rest, to not be dramatic, however Proper, proper? However that’s the item is, like, that’s, we don’t know. Historical past is being made nowadays, like and and documenting these items and making productions and lengthening consciousness about it’s is so vital and so important, as a result of we might glance however there is also science on station now that 30 years from now, yields one thing that nobody will have ever anticipated. And we had been right here, and we pointed cameras at it, you understand, and it was once, it’s like, it’s cool to be a part of that. It’s part of the higher tale.
Joseph Zakrzewski
And it has simply that higher affect on an target market member, even myself, after I see movies of a tropical typhoon shifting around the ocean and similar to that, are living feed of like that, that, once more, I say, that wonderment of simply what those this vantage level, this merit, could have. As a result of, you understand, seeing is believing in numerous techniques, and listening to is believing in numerous techniques. So it’s wonderful to listen to like once more, the pretty tale of the staff in the back of the staff. What you’ve achieved shifting right into a virtual age, you get awards and popularity for it, which comes with it, with that expansion, that enlargement of NASA TV manufacturing. Neatly, now I’ll say it. NASA has set the usual of what it involves human house flight and tv manufacturing. You realize, they had been there from day one, and right here they’re now. Now you get industrial companions concerned. Now you get industrial staff the CLPS systems, different systems which might be out of doors of NASA which might be searching for your lend a hand and recommendation on easy methods to get their productions as much as that stage. What has it been like operating with, you understand, a industrial staff program, or a Business Lunar Payload Services and products, or every other group that has partnered with NASA in any capability to take a look at and lend a hand them inform their tale?
John Stoll
Yeah, that’s, that’s a in point of fact excellent query. I’ll contact on it if you wish to, since you’ve been actual with reference to it. From my standpoint. You realize, the Business Group Program, program and the Business Lunar Payload Services and products, I believe I were given that proper, the CLPS effort. You realize, Business Group is, is, is the partnership, and it’s been attention-grabbing to spouse with their TV groups and to determine easy methods to do proclaims which might be built-in from more than one places. And that was once, that was once the massive problem, was once the technical integration, after which the messaging, in fact, which is treated by way of the Public Affairs Administrative center right here at JSC, that’s additionally a captivating problem for that aspect of the home. At the TV aspect of the home, it’s been, it’s been interesting to determine easy methods to transfer a program the place you understand NASA’s NASA’s voice, after which SpaceX or Boeing their voices, is the place it must be, and the entire technical items attach even right down to one thing very I suppose granular such because the communications the air flooring communications, that the place the bottom talks to the staff. The ones previous to industrial staff, typically talking, had been hubbed out of Houston, every so often at a Marshall, one of the previous science flights or the ISS ops, however most commonly out of Houston, the hub was once around the, you understand, around the middle from us right here in construction two. Neatly, now a SpaceX, the hub is Hawthorne, so the technical hub of communications is other. And so easy methods to interface with that, easy methods to apply the foundations of while you do and don’t, you understand, have the ones issues enabled, was once an entire new factor. So it driven, it, driven us into numerous finding out. And I believe for everyone at the industrial aspect of the home, you understand the seller, and you understand our aspect of the home too, for CLPS, CLIPS is a unique factor altogether, as a result of CLPS relying at the supplier. Now that is the supplier. I heard it very best described as FedX for the moon for any one that doesn’t know what clip says it’s. The attention-grabbing factor is, those are, those are personal corporations which might be in a sole, discrete location the place they wish to broadcast an match from. They’re no longer, there’s no connections to JSC, in contrast to the, you understand, the economic companions, SpaceX and Boeing, in order that they’re a wholly other problem. And it’s been, it’s been interesting operating with them, and it’s additionally interesting operating with those, those corporations. I went to, to one in every of them and communicate to their their comm team, and it was once attention-grabbing as it’s their first lunar undertaking, and there’s numerous startup tradition while you’re there, and it’s this very, team of extraordinarily excited folks with their and rightfully so. And so it’s interesting to look people who find themselves emblem new to human house flight like, or house flight in any respect. They’re emblem new to it, they usually’re tremendous excited for it, operating 18 hour days and going loopy. And to come back in with like, the marathon that I discussed previous of human house flight like, and work out how to slot in, have compatibility in the entire option to make the printed paintings. However Sarah, I’ll toss to you for the CCP
Sarah Volkman
Ageed. I believe you’ll want to recall to mind it like, like, shifting in with any individual, you understand, you’re, you’re, you’re combining two lives. You’re going to those corporations who’ve, a few of them have their very own, you understand, historical past of webcasts or their very own productions that they’ve placed on and or they don’t, they don’t, however they have got their very own branding and their very own, you understand, undertaking statements and so if it’s a must to mix in combination right into a cohesive, you understand, broadcast that. A, you understand, manufacturing that their target market can experience and take one thing clear of their current target market, and that ours can and you understand, that simply works for everyone, hanging away the entire felony stuff apart that it’s a must to abide by way of and work out it’s like shifting in, like, what do you stay out of your condominium? What do the individual stay from theirs? What works to inform this joint tale for all events concerned. And so it’s much more than we concept it was once going to be. And so, you understand, anyone like SpaceX has a established webcast, so it’s simply operating with them to determine what portions, you understand, even visually, what portions are we able to more or less merge to place in this new platform and this new manufacturing that we’re introducing folks to this partnership, yeah, what you understand? What do we wish from their space? Extra space. So the entire technical stuff is sophisticated, like, actually, the bodily methods, attempting to determine, you understand, how the traces run from Hawthorne to JSC, what we will be able to placed on them, what number of run again, that form of factor, keeping an eye on all that. But it surely’s cool. I imply it, it signifies that we’ve in point of fact, you understand, have began one thing new and and particular. It’s a laugh to determine this stuff out. A large number of my coworkers will pay attention to this and be like, You’re loopy.
Joseph Zakrzewski
under no circumstances initially, like what informs your long term is what you’ve discovered out of your previous. And I believe while you paintings with numerous those corporations, what they have got noticed, what they would like, what they’re aspire to, is they would like that Neil Armstrong shot at the moon, stepping down. They would like that lot gorgeous release, seize. Shut.
Sarah Volkman
The objectives are all the time the similar. Display we’re doing. Let’s make it glance cool. Make it glance let’s display how cool it’s. Until, yeah, do it higher than the remaining time.
Joseph Zakrzewski
talking of rising and doing one thing higher than remaining time, making it above and past in the case of manufacturing. Sarah, you had been the manufacturer for Artemis one, if I’m working out that as it should be
Sarah Volkman
for lots of the JSC, once more.
Joseph Zakrzewski
So you are taking, you are taking the whole lot that you understand, you understand people. Function is to go back to the moon with the Artemis program, and to deliver that again to the vanguard, and to have the technological functions that we didn’t have in 1969 after we went the primary time, to have the whole lot, these kind of gear, these kind of toys, if you wish to say at your show of cameras and operations and platforms and era, what was once that like to supply a printed that you just knew that the sector was once staring at The united states’s go back or NASA’s go back? I must say to to the moon.
Sarah Volkman
I’m no longer even positive the place to start out. I’m so satisfied. I’m so I used to be the lead manufacturer for the Artemis one undertaking for the Johnson Neatly, the undertaking is administered out of JSC, so for the majority of the undertaking. Once more, when it launches, it’s launching from Florida. We’re operating in collaboration with the Kennedy Area Heart. The ones are large productions. When it’s splashing down once more, collaboration, it’s no longer splashing down and proper out of doors of Houston. So large collaborations there, however the bulk of the undertaking, sure, it’s run out of right here, and we did do numerous the protection, so, or the entire protection for the alternatively many days it was once, 20 one thing days, and I used to be in point of fact commemorated to guide that it was once so, such as you mentioned, we’ve achieved it sooner than, technically, you understand, Apollo did pass to the moon. There was once photos from there, however it’s simply all it’s utterly other ball recreation. And I’m positive, you understand, whoever was once doing that protection again within the day, you understand, they’d be like, Whoa. Issues I will have achieved with with what you may have now, however it nonetheless was once more or less like beginning over. From infrastructure point of view, the whole lot was once other, you understand, the way in which they had been going was once other, the way in which the whole lot’s, you understand, stressed out JSC is other. So we had to determine, you understand, how are we gonna get this coated, this sign from Orion, you understand, we this is more or less an overarching level, however, and you understand this from operating the Communications Administrative center, however we’re slightly bit secondary. We’re telling the tale of what’s taking place. They’re no longer utterly, and this is more or less converting, however they’re no longer utterly, you understand, if it was once as much as us, if flight administrators got here in and FOD got here in and was once like, What do you wish to have at the Orion? We’d be like, 70,000 cameras, like, of like 12k solution, please. That doesn’t occur. So we paintings with what we’ve were given to inform the most efficient tale. So we had to determine what’s going to be in this Orion. So we will be able to work out, how can we get the photos down right here? So we found out, you understand, what traces are gonna be coming down. How can we paintings with construction 30 Challenge Regulate? How can we paintings with construction 8, who’s handles the entire imagery alerts for the middle and and in addition works with alerts for the company you understand, around the nation? How can we. Get the ones issues as a result of, once more, they’re no longer in point of fact made for broadcast always. So what solution is it going to be? And what can we wish to do to air? What can we do after we don’t have sign, however we’re nonetheless at the air, as a result of we wish to be at the air 24/7, right through this, you understand, ops. So let’s get we need to get an animation. We and in order that was once someone else, a part of our staff who labored with the flight operations directorate, who made a, you understand, a telemetry pushed animation, they usually use it too, which may be very cool. They depend on numerous our stuff too. From time to time, for, you understand, what, they watched Challenge Regulate, once they wish to stay up to the moment on positive issues, numerous occasions they’re staring at our, like, blended feed, or the astronauts are staring at it too. Yeah. So, like, what can we do after we don’t have alerts? Let’s make an animation. There’s numerous innovating for one thing that you understand, technically has been achieved already. It was once all innovation, and it was once in point of fact rewarding. I don’t know if we’re gonna have a possibility to discuss similar to, basic occasions that you understand had been probably the most memorable for us, however like I used to be crying at splashdown, I used to be crying as it was once the sort of lengthy, exhausting undertaking. In between the entire are living protection, we had been additionally generating content material for the Web, in case anyone wasn’t staring at are living once more, assembly folks the place they’re at recapping what took place, as it was once vital sufficient, should you weren’t going to observe it are living, you must nonetheless know what took place should you had been in any respect . And so all that was once being produced. In the meantime, we had been having information meetings virtually each different day after each main ops, and that was once all simply us. And so I used to be crying on the undertaking as it was once numerous paintings, however it was once so rewarding. And I for my part have no longer I imply, I see the Soyuz we’ve achieved Soyuz landings, and we’ve achieved Group Dragon landings. I’ve noticed spacecraft come again, however there was once one thing in point of fact particular about seeing one come again from the moon. My, for my first time, we simply realizing that everybody was once seeing this, everybody who you understand known that it was once a ancient match. Used to be staring at it on account of us. Yeah, I imply, there’s an image. Perhaps you’ll want to put up it that was once crying within the keep watch over room, and in addition be, simply as an aspect notice, large reduction to make level, similar to slightly a laugh in the back of the scenes, as we will be able to in point of fact even the monitoring cameras at the send, which we had been coordinating with the send that was once out within the, you understand, within the water, ready to get this photos of the tablet coming thru. They couldn’t to find it to start with, the shall we pay attention, you understand, from the loops, that it was once coming down, and that manufacturer was once panicking first, we had been in touch with at the send, panicking that we weren’t gonna see and we as soon as it in spite of everything broke to the clouds, they had been ready to find it at the digicam. And it was once very anxious to suppose, you understand, weeks, years of making plans for this second, and we’d no longer have in reality have noticed it. That’s slightly little bit of the force we are living with, as a result of we’re the one ones at that second taking pictures this, this second. However we discovered it so it was once superb. So for the entire causes, I used to be an emotional damage,
Joseph Zakrzewski
however your hobby, and I believe that’s my large takeaway, is all of us I will pay attention your hobby for it, and I believe that’s what’s inspiring. And John, you’ve noticed it in lots of progressions with you understand, it’s something to look a photograph of one thing, however it’s some other factor to look it are living. And I believe for the Artemis technology, as we are saying, to have that, you understand, firsthand wisdom, that that that is actual. This isn’t a film, this isn’t a TV display. It’s no longer produced and deliberate. That is actual coming to you. And should you’re fortunate sufficient to are living in those spaces the place you may see a release or see a touchdown or the rest like that, you understand even higher. However I believe particularly on this technology the place you understand, you may have such a lot of shops to eat content material and to in point of fact witness NASA manufacturing, the truth that it’s it’s actual, and there’s a staff this is 24/7 round-the-clock protection that has been making plans for years and years and years to get you the video that you’re seeing now that you’re so emotional to to have a response to, and I believe that’s, that’s almost definitely, I don’t know that it’s were given to be probably the most center of the entire program. I virtually really feel
Sarah Volkman
it’s so cool. We’re so fortunate with such a lot force.
John Stoll
Yeah, it’s, neatly, and you understand, it’s it, what you mentioned, Sarah, is true while you’re while you while you didn’t see the video of it to start with. Like, what that suggests, if that doesn’t, if one thing went fallacious and prefer, what that suggests is, like, it manner it’s a large factor, as a result of there’s such a lot that went in the back of it.
Sarah Volkman
That’s some other factor. We simply no longer noticed it as a result of our eyes don’t seem to be seeing it and we’re simply no longer getting on digicam, or did it? Does it no longer exist anymore? You by no means in point of fact know.
John Stoll
Neatly, and you are taking that second, yeah, while you in spite of everything see it, and you spot it placing there beneath the pretty parachutes, it must It’s the instant of like, no longer simply the whole lot went proper and the whole lot went neatly with with what we’re doing, TV smart, but in addition the undertaking and what everyone who we all know put the entire flight controls that put such a lot into it, the engineers who constructed the engineers who constructed the methods and all of that stuff, like that second the place you spot it’s the good fortune second for them too. So that you’re more or less wearing their feelings to your again as neatly. I imply, for me for my part, more or less a comparable, other tale. I used to be right here for person who didn’t come again for Columbia. I. In 2003 and dealing that was once an excessively humbling scenario. In some way, I used to be satisfied I used to be right here for it, to have the enjoy and it’s knowledgeable actually the whole lot that I’ve achieved since then, so far as staff preparation, non-public preparation, emotional resiliency, all that stuff. And simply the appreciation within the second that while you see a second in house flight that’s going neatly, it seems to be other while you’ve noticed person who didn’t pass neatly. It simply each, each second is cool from then on ahead that is going neatly. And issues which might be difficult in house, like Luca Parmitano getting the water, you understand, within the spacesuit, that complete scenario like that, in within the second this is now other. You realize, while you’ve while you’ve noticed one thing that doesn’t pass neatly,
Joseph Zakrzewski
and with that, NASA continues. I imply, we wow, love to stay construction upon a basis that you just proceed to enlarge upon and develop from. Now, what does the way forward for NASA manufacturing? NASA TV, in fact, now NASA, plus, you understand, migrated over to a streaming platform right here in fresh historical past. What’s, what does the longer term appear to be in for your eyes? I do know there’s numerous upgrades taking place. There’s numerous long term Artemis missions coming down the pipeline. Business systems proceed to ramp up. It’s virtually a day-to-day prevalence in the case of your making plans and preparation, and any individual pinging you with an e-mail announcing, Whats up, now we have a release bobbing up in twelve months. What are we able to do for it? And the way can we do it? What? What does the longer term appear to be for you?
John Stoll
The long run is, it’s interesting to me, as a result of my enjoy right here has has been low earth orbit, aside from Artemis one. And so the longer term is, is exploration, the Exploration Program, Artemis deep house community property getting used to do issues with Orion and Gateway in the future. However the interesting factor is, low Earth orbit continues whilst the the lunar stuff fires up. And so the ones two issues can occur on the similar time. So from a manufacturing standpoint, how can we place ourselves so that you could do each issues? As a result of we will be able to have a staff on Orion, you understand, out going across the moon, who needs to do a downlink with a media group at the similar day and time because the low Earth orbit staff and ISS needs to do a downlink. So we will be able to have the 2 issues taking place at similar time, which hasn’t ever been we’ve by no means had that sooner than, like in house travel, like the gap travel dock to station, and so once they did an match, all of them simply floated in combination and did an match in combination low Earth orbit. Now we’ve were given the 2 issues
Sarah Volkman
Yeah and communicate to one another. Yeah, very a ways aside, communicate to one another.
John Stoll
In order that’s like, from a large image. That’s more or less the place I’ve my eyes, find it irresistible’s an excessively it’s one thing we’ve by no means had sooner than, had maintain sooner than from a manufacturing point of view. I believe for me, the point of interest remains to be on tale. It’s nonetheless within the human tale of people who find themselves doing wonderful issues, and those wonderful folks astronauts that get inside of those automobiles and simply and pass forth and do probably the most wonderful issues. And, you understand, and each unmarried day, I’m similar to, wow, I were given to come back to paintings at NASA nowadays. It’s, it’s as cool now because it was once 28 years in the past. Like, it simply by no means stops. It’s simply the best factor. Yeah,
Sarah Volkman
Yeah, I imply, we’re all, I imply, maximum folks, I believe we’re all in this staff, numerous them artwork backgrounds, you understand, we’re all storytellers on the center of it, and John’s musician, additionally, you understand, filmmaker at this level. And we’re all simply in point of fact into telling the most efficient cool tale that we will be able to for my part, for my part hooked in to that. So having extra techniques to do this, sensible, like having higher solution to do do this, that’s very cool for us. Yeah, having extra techniques to do this make a inspiring, upper manufacturing price manufacturing is thrilling. So, yeah, the entire upgrades paintings against that. There are a few things, you understand, no longer the whole lot. There’s some, you understand, more or less no longer fairly legacy apparatus, however you understand, the whole lot will likely be UHD always. You realize, it’s a protracted procedure, however what we will be able to improve, it’s going to be very cool. It’s very thrilling.
Joseph Zakrzewski
And also you touched upon. What I wish to ask subsequent is, what’s a preview for what folks can stay up for seeing on their on their TV units and streaming instrument? Streaming gadgets and cellular gadgets at house is NASA because the manufacturing grows, as era grows, as does NASA TV, UHD, you discussed Extremely Prime Definition, 4k video. I imply we, after we began this dialog, we had been speaking about 4 by way of 3 displays on perhaps tube televisions, and right here we’re speaking about UHD and 4k what excites you concerning the developments in era and having those sources for you from a manufacturing point of view and creativity.
John Stoll
Oh yeah, yeah. Simply, I imply, NASA’s were given cameras the place, you understand, it’s a novel position that NASA has cameras up in, up in orbit, in house, and the ones cameras are wonderful. And getting that the standard of the view, and that is simply me come I’m being a tools. Your head, my complete existence, and I all the time will likely be for for audio and video manufacturing tools, seeing that high quality, like having the ability to ship that high quality to the tip consumer, and for them to enjoy one thing nearer to what precise human eyeballs can see from house. That’s cool. This is, this is, that’s it for me proper there. That’s why I really like one of the time lapse stuff that one of the astronauts do and we put up on social media ISS account, as a result of that point lapse stuff, the pictures are 4k and so the true time lapse is in is in upper solution than an HD flow. However having a UHD flow, when we get to the purpose the place you’ve were given UHD supply video coming from house that we will be able to, you understand, that we will be able to get to the tip consumer, that that excites me, simply because simply the standard is, it’s, it’s thrilling
Sarah Volkman
Yeah, I imply, like I discussed, it’s a must to more or less combat for bandwidth with those new spacecraft. So what, you understand, they have got to ship down such a lot knowledge, such a lot imagery, for their very own groups to do their paintings and do their science and do their their engineering, that, should you’re like, questioning why it hasn’t took place but or the rest, you understand, there’s a restricted quantity of bandwidth they are able to paintings with. And so, like I mentioned, you understand, expanding that will likely be very cool for everybody, and will also build up the quantity of knowledge they are able to get again for their very own, you understand, for our personal functions, for them, the knowledge, the science,
John Stoll
Yeah as a result of you’ll be able to see, like, I’m pondering of the the icon for everyone. Oh yeah, I’m pondering of the enduring shot. Now, I do disregard what undertaking it’s from, however it’s Bruce McCandless. Used to be the astronaut, and also you’ve almost definitely noticed the shot of him floating like he’s in a protected room, simply floating like, actually over the earth. And the shot’s wonderful. However what if that was once in UHD, like? What should you had been ready to look that on a large, large TV in your home, and that was once in UHD, the shot by myself is improbable, and almost definitely reasons most of the people to forestall and suppose, like, of their very own position within the universe. However what should you noticed that during UHD like, it will, it will actually purpose you to forestall and simply simply consider issues for a minute like, That is wonderful. I’m so small, like the ones guys. You realize, the ones forms of you
Sarah Volkman
haven’t noticed the picture. I imply, whilst it’s improbable. I imply, first time anyone was once simply floating. I don’t know if it was once the primary time. Don’t quote me on that farthest, yeah, simply untethered thru house. Yeah.
Joseph Zakrzewski
And that was once gonna be my more or less wonder impromptu query on the very tail finish, and I used to be going to guide in with, I used to be fortunate sufficient to be, you understand, on observation on console, operating for an EVA lately. And probably the most photographs that the NASA manufacturing staff put in combination was once as probably the most astronauts was once operating on, you understand, the additional car process out of doors the gap station. It was once them operating on their software, operating on their deliberate challenge. You’re masking it, keeping track of it. However over their shoulder, you noticed the daybreak, the daybreak come across the Earth, and it was once in best HD. It was once a kind of moments the place I take note I ended mid sentence and simply watched for a 2nd and simply whole awe and and sweetness of what I used to be witnessing and what I am getting to witness in actual time. And I used to be gonna ask you to is there a second the place that has took place for you, whether or not you’re on, on at the process as a as a manufacturer, and in a are living match, and even simply one thing out of your previous that you just’ve noticed that continues to wow you, and possibly occasionally on a foul day, you wish to have slightly inspiration, and also you return to that clip or that symbol and glance again once more,
John Stoll
yeah. Oh, surely, surely. I imply, it’s, it’s beautiful common, I suppose almost definitely a particular instance I will recall to mind. I don’t take note the undertaking, however it was once an area travel undertaking. And in house travel missions, the staff was woken up. They might play tune on air to flooring at the uplink. They’d play tune, and it will pop out of little audio system within the house travel and wake the staff up. And the staff would make a selection their get up tune, or their circle of relatives would make a selection it for them. However there’s this one morning specifically. It was once almost definitely 3am and I’m, I’m sitting there, I’ve been on shift for, you understand, for 10 days, and I used to be taking a look at within the house travel, find it irresistible was once the view of the digicam was once like, it was once Area Travel pointed course commute over the earth. And so it was once a really nice view of the Earth. I used to be like, that is, that is wonderful. Like, it’s 3am and I’m simply, I’m simply seeing this view at the at the display screen. I labored within the audio keep watch over room, and the get up tune was once someplace over the rainbow. The IZ model, the ukulele model. And I had this second the place I used to be like, that is probably the most improbable day of my existence. That is probably the most and my arms at the fader, and I’m ensuring that ranges excellent. I’m sitting there writing it, you understand. However because it’s even while you’re nowadays of simply attempting to do this process simply completely, you’re nonetheless like, wow, that is, that is one for the reminiscence books.
Sarah Volkman
Yeah, it occurs so much. It’s almost definitely transparent that the Artemis as soon as flashed on was once a kind of moments. However even sooner than I take note the primary in point of fact memorable match, that suggests similar to, actually took my breath away. Like John says, you first display up and also you’re like, you spot the entire downlinks. You’re like, oh my god, that is so improbable. However the only while you get previous that and you’ll be able to simply serve as in most cases and do your process and be told issues, it was once a Soyuz go back. I believe it was once Peggy Whitson and Thomas Pesquet that was once. First staff, I believe, that I noticed go back, and that was once simply realizing that people had been in that spacecraft, barreling against Earth, barreling against the bottom, exhausting flooring, was once improbable to look. And that, you understand, we were given to look the entire technique of them, you understand, undocking, ultimate the hatch undocking, and coming down. I I nonetheless consider that always. I imply, it was once like virtually a decade in the past now, and I nonetheless consider that always. It was once improbable to me. And he, they had been barreling thru house, and I take note Thomas was once speaking about how a lot you wish to have to take a bath, like they’re simply chilling and and, and I don’t blame him, however I will’t believe, however, like, it’s the best factor I ever noticed. They usually’re simply speaking about showering, as a result of, I imply, they did cool stuff always. I simply don’t it. That was once all was once only a in point of fact surreal second for a lot of causes. I’m blanking on what number of cool issues we get to do and witness so, like I mentioned we, none folks, are like from science backgrounds, however you simply, you’re in order that moved by way of what you’re finding out and seeing. And I imply, astronauts speak about it in house. Once they glance down, it adjustments them. And simply seeing that adjust occur to folks, it adjustments you, too. I imply, I slightly made it thru highschool science and so hooked in to it. So, yeah.
Joseph Zakrzewski
Neatly, the pretty factor is, is these kind of examples, these kind of issues we’ve mentioned, there’s a platform the place you’ll be able to pass subsequent to our manufacturing staff and staff and spot those parts and enjoy those parts your self. So the ones listening, be sure you test them out. Needless to say. John, sir, I can’t thanks sufficient, Sarah, for becoming a member of us nowadays, the staff in the back of the staff, and everybody a large thanks to them, additionally for all issues. NASA TV manufacturing, there’s greater than sufficient to take a look at, so be sure you discuss with the entire suitable channels to look how you’ll be able to watch. However thanks for doing what you do, and and bringing numerous pleasure and numerous inspiration to assembly us the place we’re and and having the ability to enjoy NASA in that method. Thanks.
John Stoll
And thanks.
Sarah Volkman
Yeah no, thanks. Thanks, Joseph. Thanks to your whole colleagues who paintings with us within the communications place of business. We respect it
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Joseph Zakrzewski
Thank you for sticking round. I am hoping you discovered one thing new nowadays. Take a look at nasa.gov for the most recent data, and you’ll be able to watch the entire thrilling NASA trends in human spaceflight on NASA+ or plus.nasa.gov and to take a look at the paintings of the JSC multimedia staff, take a look at the NASA Johnson and NASA video YouTube pages. Our complete choice of podcast episodes is on nasa.gov/podcasts you’ll be able to additionally to find many different superb podcasts now we have around the company on social media. We’re at the NASA Johnson Area Heart pages of Fb, X and Instagram. Use #askNASA to your favourite platform to publish your thought or ask a query. Simply remember to point out it’s for Houston We Have a Podcast. This dialogue was once recorded on February 19, 2025 because of Dane Turner, Will Flato, Daniel Tohill, Courtney Beasley and Dominique Crespo, and naturally, thank you once more to John Stoll and Sarah Volkman for taking the time to come back at the display. Give us a score and comments on no matter platform you’re taking note of us on, and let us know what you recall to mind our podcast. We’ll be again subsequent week.
